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Conversations With a Wounded Healer

Who’s a wounded healer? It’s any one of us who works in a caring profession and is bravely doing their own work, while helping others. My goal is to share the parallel journey we as healers walk along with our clients and how we attend to our own humanity while caring for others.

My podcast is about conversations and community building, what we can learn from each other, and how we can help heal each other. We’re cultivating a space where we celebrate vulnerability, authenticity and “showing up.”

It’s a place to meet people I think will inspire you, help you heal and grow – and who you can relate to at the same time.

I’m inspired by C.G. Jung’s “wounded healer” concept, where the healer’s own hurt that gives the measure of his own power to heal.

Another one of my heroes, Brené Brown, puts it best: “Mindfully practicing authenticity during our most soul-searching struggles is how we invite grace, joy and gratitude into our lives.”

Together, I hope this marriage of vulnerability and professionalism will inspire and entertain you...enjoy!


Jun 24, 2020

If you’re not talking about power, then you're really not doing racial equity work or inclusive work.” ~Brit Holmberg

Brit Holmberg, MSW, LCSW, is a staff therapist at The Wellness Center of Loyola University and a longtime friend. He's also the co-creator, alongside his colleague Marion Malcome MSW, LCSW, of “Becoming An Anti-Racist Social Worker”. 

Use of that hyphenate is critical to this conversation. Not racist is easy but anti-racist? That's where the real work sits and, spoiler alert: it never ends. As Brit explains, supporting the radical social changes Black people and people of color demand - and deserve - requires white allies to embark upon a life-long process of unlearning and decentering.

So what does a CIS HET white guy know about racism? Glad you asked. Brit is clear on this point: he's not one of racism's intended victims. Instead, his mission is to make inroads with people who, like him, have long been the beneficiaries of white supremacist culture. 

Does that make him a healer, wounded or otherwise? You’ll have to listen in to hear what Brit thinks about my favorite question. The process of becoming an anti-racist, though? That’s transformative healing for those on both sides of that equation.

Brit offers these excellent suggestions for your anti-racist syllabus:

White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard To Talk To White People About Racism - by Robin DiAngelo

Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together In The Cafeteria? - by Beverly Daniel Tatum

White Privilege: Unpacking The Invisible White Knapsack - by Peggy McIntosh

I'm Still Here: Black Dignity In A World Made For Whiteness - by Austin Channing Brown

Code Switch Podcast - NPR

For the complete list compiled by Marion and Brit:


Brit Holmberg (he/him, they/them) is a passionate community organizer, educator, and mental health practitioner who seeks to disrupt white supremacy culture and promote anti-racism at both the clinical and organizational levels.  Brit lives with his family in Chicago, IL.

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